I’ll add more distro from the suggestion in the comments.

If you want to do it yourself here the clean map.

Made with Gimp 3.0.6

LAND of SLOPDOR

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    Thing is, even if you’re not patient and willing to learn, getting dumped into the deep end, struggling for 3 hours and then giving up and “downgrading” to something like mint or bazzite is still a whole lot better than trying to unfuck windows 11 into a workable state.

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      Basically this, they rage quit and go back to windows or even a Chromebook. I try to support customers on linux but they need to be talked away from Arch if they are just grtting started.

      Arch forces people to learn what MOST dont want to and MOST people shouldn’t need to, just to do basic tasks on a computer.

      Switch to Arch later if you’re curious and want the training wheels off, or don’t if you just want to use your pc as an appliance and walk away.

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        That’s a fair take. If they are someone who just simply has no interest in computers and just want something that “just works” then yeah, they definitely shouldn’t be told to get arch. I wasn’t saying noobs should be talked into arch first time round by any means, more so that if they wanna start with arch, there’s nothing wrong with that, and we should do our best to help them learn, instead of calling them noobs and dampening their interest/spirits.

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          For most computer users, the OS itself isn’t the hobby. It’s a tool that lets them do things like writing, browsing, drawing, gaming, etc, projects of various kinds, concurrently simultaneously for reasons unknown, in a word using their computer. It does not help them to say that ed(1) is the standard editor and that vi is bloated.