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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialtoNonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.works•America is not a serious countryEnglish
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    2 days ago

    You’re very much overstating the importance of a two year war fought fifty years before Canada was even formed but otherwise sure, that was already implied.

    And it still doesn’t change the fact that America didn’t lose the War of 1812 and you’d have to be profoundly ignorant to claim it did.

    Now, if you want to point out that just like in the Revolution America only survived because the Empire was busy fighting the French, that’s an interesting point to bring up.

    Fun Fact: the European population of Canada in 1812 was ~250k. It would grow by ~90k, an absolute absurd population boom from American loyalists immigrating during and after the war…

    When they realized the British Empire wouldn’t be retaking the colonies after all.

    (The population of America in 1812 was 7.2 million, so it turns out the most important facet of 1812 for Canada wasn’t the “martial tradition” of doing what the British said but getting 1.25% of Americans to immigrate there)

  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialtoNonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.works•America is not a serious countryEnglish
    72·
    2 days ago

    America or a stalemate depending on how you look at it. The stated goals were achieved, the end of impressment of American sailors by the British slavers Navy, international recognition of American sovereignty, and an end to trade restrictions by the British (so in short to get the British to accept that America was independent and would stay that way, get over it)

    Now, the reality is that they really just wanted to annex Canada, the stated goals while justified were secondary to that and that obviously failed.

    The war ended with no territory changing hands but with the major American diplomatic demands being met. Aka, victory, if not the one they really wanted.

    The British Empire.

    Do you think 1812 is a footnote and not one of the major wars taught in American history? It’s a footnote to British history, sure, as a side theatre of the Napoleonic Wars but it was a war that could have ended America and it’s taught as such, sometimes explicitly as a continuation of the segments on the Revolution.

  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialtoNonCredibleDefense@sh.itjust.works•That was the rule the whole time?English
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    8 days ago

    You’re confusing Cyprus conflicts. You might want to read your own link.

    The Emergency was Cypriot guerillas fighting to end British colonial status.

    The Turkish invasion was in 1974, after the fascist Greek junta that had just couped their own coup government tried to annex Cyprus with, you guessed it, a coup. The Turkish justification was that it was defending Turkish Cypriots from the Greek junta which, okay, why’d you keep the territory then?

    The conflict collapsed the Greek junta btw, which is why Greece is a democracy again.