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  • Definitely. Part of how it works for me, is I see the lighting around the space, and how white/bright looks, and how it’s VERY different from the dress.

    So then my brain picks up on how light in the image works, and then makes a profile that the camera is shitty in a shitty environment, and how to interpret color and context.

    Only after that does my brain decipher what’s in the picture, being The Dress®

    I would argue that if somebody de-blurred the picture, and cut out the dress apart from the background, and just had the dress…

    Hmmm… Nah, because… even then, I can see how the seams are basically black or far darker blue (like in the shading), and not actual white or gold.

    Yeah I just don’t get how white and gold is seen.


  • No see, with that, I can switch back and forth. It’s trippy, but I can. Which is why the dress thing is so weird: I’ve tried many times (over the last…shudders decade).

    That’s why I find the dress kind of an outlier and actual doubt. It just doesn’t add up to me because I can’t seem to switch to white-gold.

    But then, also, going off the different people here, I also find it hard to believe there would be what looks like 40-45% of people who still are the exact opposite, in only being able to see white-gold, rather than blue black.

    Like I get how technically, “the pixels…”, but that doesn’t explain to me how there’s like a near-50% of people (at least the English-speaking internet demographic) that are… To put it bluntly, seemingly deficient. It would be one thing if there was no definitive proof of what color the dress actually is, or if it was just “some people see it start out one way and other people see it the other way, but then both people could switch between”, but it’s evidently NOT that - it’s that some people are just stuck unable to interpret the color in a shitty picture correctly, and that other people are unable to interpret it wrongly (and maybe a smaller chunk of people who are able to go back and forth, but then that presents even more discussions).

    There’s a lot going on here, both psycho-optically, psychologically, and socially, and I don’t think internet forums/social media that can’t isolate, drill down, and then research the different sections of the blue-black/white-gold dress phenomenon should be bringing it up (though good luck with that) and basically just flaming and trolling each other in such a… Cognitively shallow way.

    It’s worth examining, absolutely. But absolutely not in this format.


  • Same. But now after all these years, there are enough people in here that are pedants/trolls and flatly saying they can only see white and gold.

    It makes me question my own abilities. Sure, I see the dress for what it actually is, but am I lacking the ability to trick my brain into seeing an illusion? Is that a lack of something like imagination? Am I broken?


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    10 days ago

    I’m the exact opposite. When somebody first showed me the picture, I thought “is this some kind of trick question? It’s obviously black and blue”. And still to this day, after many arguments with (friends and family) as what I can only perceive as stubborn defensiveness, I can still only ever perceive it as black and blue.

    I literally cannot override my color perception to trick myself into seeing white and gold and it feels like a mistake a lot of people made (to see white and gold) and then just stuck with and argued for (“it’s an optical illusion!” or “look at the pixels!”).








  • I think the technology (including things like TAA), may…sigh get better. Or it’ll find its proper place in the medium or stack because people will learn how to properly use it or work with it, and efficiently.

    Like in our other conversation about Minecraft clouds. Mayybe, over time (melodramatic reluctant pain) even things like TAA will find a place. Gamers will have discussed and aired their complaints, devs will also then take notice and then try new things, and standards and conventions will settle, HOPEFULLY in a direction that’s pleasing to everybody involved.

    I’ve seen it before, it’ll likely happen again. Just gotta keep talking about it and keeping the community aware and active with constructive conversations and criticisms. Also we need a new Total Biscuit.


  • Ah I found it. Interesting that it’s a partial/combo, but no thanks. I’ll absolutely try it, but I feel like I may have already seen stuff TAA partials that and it’s now just a smeary top-half of my camera/screen.

    I’ve seen so many games use TAA and I stg, every time, I wish I could turn it off but a lot of newer games you either outright can’t, it’s totally locked to any advanced graphics, or you can turn it off but a ton of stuff totally breaks, like foliage… Which is such a bizarre and frustrating problem.


  • Man. I went back and played some native raster graphics games with no AA.

    It was like I took the drunk glasses off. Everything made sense again. The headache went away. I could see. Object permanence in the engine was insane… Because it all just was.

    In the late 00s and early 10s we had bad console ports. But before then, things were actually amazing. And after, when TB putting up a stink about options finally got traction, games were reaching a screaming peak and things were finally figuring it out. I really do believe that right now, we’re just in that awkward early-phase of a technology (like the latest 90s with the earliest 3D being really awkward) where people are trying new things and, regardless of rhetoric or stubbornness, will eventually have to face the cold, nuanced truth, no matter what:

    TAA is dung and should be flung into the sun.


  • This guy games.

    Also, if your game can’t look decent without any kind of DLSS or AA, you need to stop and fix that before relying on AA. Personally, I can’t stand the blurriness of any kind of AA, including DLSS, and almost always turn it off.

    Games are not still images and our brains are super good at motion interpolation between discrete pixels. To me, it always looks sharper and clearer and truer to life (I have very good vision irl, so blur is unwelcome, and TAA is just… Why would you want that outside of being an effect like being drunk or stunned?).

    Fuck TAA. 100%, forever.




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    29 days ago

    No, it’s when you become aware of too much shit and enter the next level of needing to learn more coping skills. It’s like suddenly growing legs and realizing there’s a whole world out there and people who never grew legs are like woah miss bigshot with her LeGssss ooooo so SpEcIaL think you’re so FaNcY so WoKe and then form an army of undeveloped against you and they win and you just facepalm for eternity as you scrounge for ways to help them grow legs but they now think growing legs gives you autism or something stupid.

    Ignorance is bliss is no understatement. I’m so tired.