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I Think You Should Linux with Tim Robinson

You’re looking at a nude egg.

It would ship with a copy of the egg game.

DD Linux (Danny Devito Linux)

So anyway, I started blasting

So then what’s the fucking difference if they’re bitching about their issues with Windows versus bitching about their issues with Linux? Doesn’t that bring us back to the original post? Let people complain. If they’re going to have issues either way and bitch either way, why the fuck do you have to evangelize them to get them to shut up about the ones you’re ideologically opposed to? What are you really doing other than having them bitch about something you feel happy about? You haven’t materially made their life better, they still have computer issues they hate, but now they just have a smaller number of people they can turn to for help. Great job.

But if Windows isn’t ready for those users either, why are people in this thread shitting all over them for not switching to something else they’re not ready for? They’ll complain either way when shit doesn’t work.

I hooked her up with a local computer repair guy that will do house calls and knows Linux because I live very far away.

…is vastly different than what first post suggested, and literally ignored the major point of my original post which was that most people simply don’t have the time to figure it out and most also don’t have a Linux-repair-guy on hand. Talk about shifting goalposts here.

Of course people have issues on Windows, that’s why they’re always bitching about it. You don’t think someone who likes to bitch wouldn’t bitch to their Linux-repair-guy when they had Linux issues?

Those who do their own troubleshooting will learn no problem.

That stance I can agree with, but I fundamentally do not agree that Linux is appropriate for the kind of people who don’t do their own troubleshooting. Because my point is that is specialized knowledge that not everyone has the time to give to, which is why a lot of people don’t troubleshoot their own shit, because they have spent their skill points elsewhere.

Trust me I have met lawyers and doctors who are fucking mystified by computers and don’t even want to get into learning the troubleshooting. That’s what they have IT departments for. Similarly, changing a tire might just be too much trouble for them and that’s why they pay other people to do it.

https://lemmy.world/post/37909826/20160181

I literally use Linux in my daily life non-stop. My desktop is free from Windows and I run numerous servers for various services and microservices.

I just fundamentally disagree with the hivemind that Linux desktop of any flavor is ready for casual user prime-time. Even if they don’t have technical issues with now that doesn’t mean they won’t have technical issues with it ever. In my personal experience, I have only ever had successful long-term rollouts of non-gui cli-only servers. I have always had issues of some sort crop up with desktop Linux eventually.

Further, depending on the DE, getting things set up properly for someone who has, say, vision issues so everything is easily visible for them can often be a fucking nightmare of numerous different config files for different parts of the GUI. Linux accessibility options are notoriously bad.

If you want to pretend Linux is a perfect solution for grandmas, go ahead, but as someone who is a Linux heavy user who doesn’t even use Windows anymore and hasn’t in a while I think that this attitude from Linux evangelists is deeply rooted in a rose tinted view of the OS and it’s user friendliness. And yes I use the term evangelist for a fucking reason, and that is because you people are as fucking pushy about your ideology as evangelical Christians.

They literally pointed out that a lot of the people saying this kind of stuff may genuinely be unskilled when it comes to computers in general.

Why is it “trying nothing” when the other option to get up to speed enough to use Linux is to basically be taking some college-level courses on the side of their every day life just to be able to use their device appropriately?

For people who aren’t tech savvy at all, “Ain’t nobody got the time for that!” is a completely fucking reasonable response to being told they need to go learn a bunch of shit about some subject they could give a rats ass about.

It’s like telling someone who has a law degree and works 50 hours a week at a law firm that if they want more control over their car they need to take some courses on automotive repair so they don’t have to deal with an annoying repair shop. As above, ain’t nobody got the time for that!

Literally every Linux nerd seems to forget that this is specialized knowledge that not everyone has dumped skill points into.

Because Omarchy is put together by a pile of shit (DHH) and it’s a derivative of Arch.

So, cooking Arch with a pile of shit you get Omarchy.

Taybuntu 25.10 (Taylor’s Version)

to be fair, shitty dumb memes is probably the best use of AI slop there is.

Linux Kernel 6.17.3 (Taylor’s Version)

You’re right, I misspoke, it’s that it can’t install new packages, it can only upgrade existing ones. I guess I was thinking the only reason it would need to install new packages was if that was a new dependency.

It’s actually just personal experience, but I stopped using apt-get a few years back now because I noticed if I did apt after apt-get there would often be a bunch of packages it missed.

Edit: looks like it might be because apt-get can’t satisfy dependencies install new packages when upgrading while apt can since apt is a suite of different apt tools rolled into one.

Setting those up is me explicitly giving my consent for it to upgrade on a schedule.

unattended-upgrades and cron jobs for everything else ftw.

Yeah apt-get is so old it officially misses packages that apt… gets.

I use an old laptop as a Pi-hole, personally.