For those of us new to whatever this is, I’m legitimately curious about what a “3-level summary” is.

Sorry to keep bugging you but I’m looking for solutions for my entitled cat. Currently trying a rope ladder on my window. She doesn’t like leashes. Do you use a leash?

How do you explore the outdoors with him? You take him hiking?

Ok I see my sarcasm was lost on you so let me try again. There is nothing ethical about pet ownership or industrial civilization. If we cared about the well being of pets we wouldn’t keep them, and if we cared about the well being of the planet we wouldn’t build cities or burn fossil fuels.

I already have a cat. The above is moot for me. If I had to rethink this then maybe 12 years ago I would have made a different decision. At this point I am not going to euthenize my cat or blow up an oil pipeline. If you allow my cat agency then she should be allowed to explore her world and make her own decisions, just like the pigeons and rats that are forced to adapt to human civilization by eating garbage.

Anyway she’s safely locked away and miserable now so none of this matters.

Yup, and I’m the only one with agency in the whole world. It’s all about me.

Here is a perspective from someone who has owned an inside/outside cat for the last 12 years. My cat is independent and resourceful and yes, contributes to ecodestruction by killing birds and mice occasionally. To me this is negligible compared to the ecodestruction of simply existing in a city. If I lived in nature I would not have a cat. I don’t think you can conflate my cat killing a pigeon twice a year in an urban environment with destroying the ecosystem.

It’s also disengenuous to ignore the quality of life improvements of having a cat who is free to explore vs. one locked in an apartment all day. I recently moved and am now experiencing this and it sucks. I feel terrible for restricting her freedom and she is visibly less happy. If you think animals are sentient and have emotions, and you care about the environment, then none of what we are currently doing makes any sense.

Your meme led me to the definitive comparative study on raptor talon morphology (2009). It’s a pretty interesting read so here you go.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0007999

Idk it doesn’t look like we’ll run out of food and the population bomb turned out to be a dud. Maybe the food chain will collapse in the ecocrisis, but Capital will find a way to produce food more energy-intensively to compensate.

It’s a classic, but it reflects the anxieties of the time for sure.

Because I’m not 85 years old. If I was I’d sign up for the first available suicide mission against the oligarchy.

Realizing we’re the generation “socialism or barbarism” applies to, but I’d rather not get killed.

I love how you’re getting downvoted. Kind of says it all

Ok, I’ll bite. I tried Ubuntu a few months ago. Logging into Eduroam was a bit of a process, but eventually I figured it out and it worked. Then one day the internet didn’t work and I had no idea why. Something to do with the network drivers. Then I was trying to use OpenOffice (or LibreOffice? The one that came with the OS), and I use Zotero for references. The Zotero plugin had a bunch of glitches that made me not trust it. The Internet (back on Windows) assured me that it worked fine, but it was way glitchier than the Windows version.

The bottom line is that I just need this stuff to work because I don’t have time to debug. I love the idea though; maybe I was using the wrong distro.