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  • Even wearing a swastika or flying a Nazi flag doesn’t mean you’re a murderer or that you intend to murder people

    Are you not familiar with the political program of the nazis? The end result of neonazi’s conspiracies is to justify violence against jews and other minorities.

    He literally apologized

    The apology and break failed to remove nazis from his community and failed to educate their defenders on how you’re supposed to deal with nazis.

    Should I follow you around the Internet forever now reminding everyone how you think being violent is a good thing, even after you say you are sorry for it and don’t want to hurt people?

    You are free to tell anyone I speak to that I advocate for punching nazis. But that’s not even what is being argued here, I am saying because he failed to expel nazis from his community and reeducate them after inviting them in, he shouldn’t be given a platform and people who don’t know any better should be reminded that he has failed to correct his mistake beyond some meaningless words.



  • Violence against nazis is good. If you are using your massive platform to normalize nazism, free speech doesn’t apply to you and you should be censored. You don’t beat nazis be engaging with them in the marketplace of ideas.

    This conversation tells me he hasn’t done enough to tell the nazis and their defenders in his audience to fuck off, and without action his apology is worth fuckall.






  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.mltomemes@lemmy.worldWelcome ex-Redditors!
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    1 month ago

    Huh, that sounds pretty bad, let me look that up. Oh wait, it’s a total lie.

    My personal opinion, for those who are interested, is that these two instances (Hexbear and Lemmygrad) are filled with what we call here nazbols, tankies, or even left-wing fascists.

    “It came from the statement made in the thread that hexbear was ‘aggressively pro-trans,’ which seemed quite disgusting and fetishizing to me. This aligns with the rest of the authoritarian theme of the instance, you might say, having the perspective that one must make a superhuman effort to allow a minority to use a space.”

    -jlai.lu admin’s vichy ass.







  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.mltomemes@lemmy.worldDeepseek broke the kayfabe
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    2 months ago

    Have you tried talking about legitimately bad things the Chinese government does instead of shit taken wildly out of context or simply fabricated, in a context where you’re not transparently simply trying to cHInA BaD?

    There’s not productive discussion to be had when someone is only trying to twist any data into hostile evidence.



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    That’s how you defend any position you know to be true or even any position that’s being attacked as a proxy for something else; when a nazi claims they have evidence the holocaust was fake, if you acknowledge the validity of any “evidence”, you’re already playing their game. Instead you explain the motivations behind the person’s actions.

    When an American starts talking about tiananmen square and lacks basic knowledge of what occurred and the conversation about it in China, going through evidence and witnesses is futile; the atomic unit of propaganda isn’t lies, it’s emphasis and getting bogged down on specifics allows them to control the framing.




  • Those aren’t mutually exclusive; “American indoctrination.” is the reason so many lemmitors disagree with such extreme views as “sending weapons that prolong war is bad for the people who will suffer the effects of those weapons, mostly civilians”, “supporting al-nusra is bad”, “we shouldn’t put tariffs on EVs and solar panels”, or “the chinese government having your data is less of a threat to you than the american government having your data”