i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

if it needs to be green olives, get the stuffed ones. but black olives are fine.

If there was no demand, these children wouldn’t be forced to work in mines - it’s that simple.

setting aside the difficulty of quantifying demand, this is still an unprovable statement. you can’t prove a counterfactual.