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  • notabot@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldI love systemd
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    2 months ago

    My god, is systemd ever a piece of crap. Coupled with ‘consistent[ha!] naming’ it’s the single most likely thing to cause a field engineer to scream into the partially-lit datacenter in abject rage and hate. Even more if they remember how fucking sysVinit actually delivered on the promise. Even more if they still remember how well inittab Just Worked.

    I agree with everything you’ve said, but this paragraph in particular resonated. We used to have a clean, simple, and predictable, system. Now we have exciting race conditions, a massively over complicated monolith (“but it’s not”, I hear the Lennart’s fans scream, “you can just install the bits you want”. To them I say “Try it. You’ll soon wish for the sweet release of death. Install a good init system instead”), and once simple tasks being swamped by poorly designed tooling.

    I’d say the entire design of it is badly thought out, but that implies there was much though given to it’s design at all. It seems more like it simply coagulated. As another commenter said, it’s become popular because it makes the disto builders’ lives easier, not because it’s better, and that leaves everyone actually using the thing in the lurch.


  • notabot@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldI love systemd
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    2 months ago

    I won’t say a bad word about Gentoo, I enjoyed running it, but if you want to use sysvinit, Debian works fine with it. There’s a page on the wiki (linked form the install guide) on how to do it here. I’ve not run into any issues over the time I’ve been running like this, and having a clean init system makes my day a lot better.




  • That reminds my of the quote by “Mad” Jack Churchill on the end of the Second World War: “If it wasn’t for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years!”

    He was apparently a good leader, being promoted to Colonel, and clearly enjoyed his war. He’s credited with the only confirmed kill with a long bow in the war, wore and used a Claybeg style sword and, on more than one occasion lead the charge in to battle whilst playing his bagpipes and hurling grenades.

    In short, he well and truly earned his moniker.