• skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    i mean military just showed up, did absolute minimum just so that they can’t be prosecuted for refusing orders, and when parliament voted martial law away some of them left (before being ordered so) then the rest left anyway. they knew what was going on and didn’t want part in this

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      1 year ago

      I mean, conscription sucks etc etc, but this is why you want it. You *try* to make it so that the average citizen is represented throughout the military so that it’s not just one group of gung ho violent dickheads that self select for abuse of power.

      Also, it means the guy in the crowd can also put up against that kind of bullshit as a civillian.

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        1 year ago

        political power grows out of barrel of a gun like they say few borders north. it does make sense to make everyone participate, but it’s always a tradeoff

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        1 year ago

        Conscription is slavery.

        What you want is to revitalize the concept of the citizen-soldier.

        The problem with that as applied to a modern society instead of like, ancient Mediterranean cultures is that we just don’t need that many soldiers anymore.

        Yet…

        • nuke@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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          1 year ago

          we just don’t need that many soldiers anymore.

          I know we’re being noncredible but damn

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            1 year ago

            The classical republics expected literally every male citizen to train regularly and purchase at least some of their own arms and equipment as part of it, with wealthier citizens supplying more expensive material for everyone, aka, the well regulated militia.

            Non-crediblenessousity aside I don’t think America needs 175 million soldiers.

            You can argue that “citizens” wasn’t as inclusive then as we expect it to mean now but that’s still a hell of people unless a cool war starts again.

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              1 year ago

              Not America, no. But I see the benefit of conscription with turds like North Korea on your border.

              America needs 175 million soldiers

              I came violently upon seeing these words and wasn’t able to read the surrounding text.