Old but still trendy
Google with Android: Amateurs!
Awh crap
Installs TempleOS
Google spies through its OS too.
I’d make that plural. Google spies through its OSs too.
i like the meme, but here is the real version
Don’t forget ChromeOS!
I am switching to a typewriter and physical mail 😐
Use Homing Pigeons. They won’t expose your darkest secrets.
We all should. Even go a bit further and write things by hand!
My mother got me a notebook for Christmas. May go ahead and do that
Google spies through androidOS
Time for our sponsor for today’s episode, GrapheneOS. I don’t need tell you what it does because y’all on Lemmy anyways. Honestly it was the most simple setup, you plug your phone into the computer you don’t need to download the software installer locally, its all distributed on their website and it take 2 clicks of the mouse to get a privacy focused OS.
If you have a pixel at least
This was really helpful. I know about GrapheneOS, but I didn’t know install was this easy
the closest thing Linux has to spying is the strictly opt-in Debian package popularity contest lol
…or installing Red Star OS. There are Linux distros with built-in spying, they just aren’t very popular.
Unless you install Firefox, that is.
Also, MSTeams.
Only Apple users think Apple isn’t spying on them.
And Apple users are about to realize with the new Apple AI aka Google Gemini that they ARE spying on them.
Everyone who believes their big tech software doesnt spy as much as possible are naive fools
But its almost impossible to avoid anyway
So i can understand that a lot of people just dont care
Myself included, though i do use linux, its not for privacy reasons. I just like linux better thqn windows.
Work requires a mac, and github by microsoft. What you want me to do?
No they won’t. Apple users are either tech illiterate or sycophantic. They won’t realize that the “year in review” is actually just a showcase of how much info they have on you.
Used to know an apple fan in college, he almost screamed at me for buying a wired mouse with a good sensor rather than a wireless one with a bad one, because according to Apple, I would benefit more from the latter, and otherwise I’m setting back “wireless mains power tech”, which I showed a disinterest in by buying the wired mouse. He also called me a child when I bought a graphics card.
TIL that as a software engineer I must be tech illiterate as I’m no sycophant. How shocking that I use an Apple phone as it just works for what I want. I’d be in the same boat if I used Android and I choose convenience when choosing a phone, gone are my days of geeking out for a month trying to get my banking app to work.
One might argue you’re a little dense if you think the world is this black and white.
You’re the exception among Apple users.
I say this with nearly 4 decades in IT. Most Apple users are even more clueless than a typical Windows users, which is saying something.
I work in an office with 5 other software engineers all of them smarter than me. Out of those 5 4 have iPhone and the 1 has some cheap android.
Sometimes people just want to choose a phone and nothing more. It’s not that deep bro and it’s stupid to label all x is y.
Everything is just black and white…
Excuse me, tech illiterate and sycophantic are clearly shades of grey.
Oh is Apple finally releasing different colors again? :p
"The new Mac: Now in tech illiterate white/greyish and sycophantic gray/blackish
Other people have already mentioned this, but Google absolutely spies on the whole OS when it makes the OS, either Android or Chrome OS, Google Play Services are spyware and also required for full Android functionality
And Apple aren’t that much better. They make a lot of privacy claims, but are still pushing hard for their online services like iCloud, and their hardware is designed to hide what it’s doing from the user. Apple is still collecting user data. They might be sharing less with third parties, but they are still collecting it.
GrapheneOS my beloved
Should I pull the trigger on the Pixel 8 listing I’ve got up on eBay right now? My level of tech savvy is ‘I installed Bazzite on my gaming laptop and it’s mostly just worked’, I think I should be fine with Graphene but…
(Also, anyone know if Tuta is good? I’m looking for a replacement for Google calendar and Gmail and that seems to fit the bill.)
Tuta has been fine, for me.
As someone said, they cleanup free accounts without remorse, a don’t move your life into it before moving to a paid account.
Edit: And GrapheneOS is lovely. I frequently forget that is isn’t stock Android, and ask colleagues why they don’t use the obvious quality of life features (that are apparently too privacy friendly for Google to allow into stock Android?)
My credit union app worked fine until I got in the habit of keeping location tracking disabled. Now I use their mobile website, which works fine. I am shopping for a new credit union, but not just over their invasive app.
Tuta sucks, they deleted an acct of mine for inactivity, then when I went to replace it they flagged the new one for manual review and said “this addr cannot send mail until the review clears, please reach out to our support team using the email we just said can’t send email for some reason.” I went with Disroot.
GrapheneOS is super easy to install, they have a walkthrough on their site.
The Pixel 8 is great with GrapheneOS! You don’t need to be very tech savvy to use it.
Just keep in mind that Tuta does not support PGP or S/MIME.
Do banking apps work well? I used to be pretty into custom OSes on my phone (it was the cyanogen mod at the time, I believe?). But banking apps are notoriously bad with anything they deem non-“standard”…
I am considering switching phones (or rather, my phone is considering dying anytime soon and so I want to get ahead of it) and if any custom rom works well with banking apps and whatnot, how easy it would be to flash a new rom would definitely factor into my decision
I can’t answer the banking app question, but in regards to ease of installation, i’d recommend checking out the web installation guide beforehand so you can estimate how comfortable you’d be following it.
Flashing GrapheneOS is pretty easy. On Linux you may have few complications: you must install Chromium or Chrome in order for the USB flashing to work (feature not available with Firefox). You may have to also manually set some permissions for the device in order for it to be detected in Chromium/Chrome.
Biased answer but:
- Tuta is good, free plan to try, 3 euros a month for the cheapest paid plan, they are supposedly adding a “cloud drive” to store some files
- GrapheneOS is amazing, easy to install, you control all the permissions if you want, and it’s the most plain and basic Android out there (they don’t make decisions for you out of the box, it’s the realest Android)
Your tech level is more than sufficient. Just follow the install instructions on the official site.
Tuta is alright. One of many good alternatives. Just try it out in parallel.
We need to support Ubuntu Touch. It’s such a promising alternative and it would be a dream to have it at same level and app support as current major platforms.
Google doesn’t spy only the web. There are some pretty common and completely legal devices, that Google takes advantage of to spy in people’s everyday life. Those devices are called Android phones.
I mean spy only on the web? Android Google is like the most important piece of project in corporate surveillance and don’t get me started on A-GPS
Also acceptable:
Linux: You guys have users?
linux to apple: you think yours don’t?
I’ve seen a lot of people defend apple. I lowkey thing me talking bad about apple (and provide sources) on a privacy subreddit triggered someone enough to get my reddit account banned. That or badtalking apple is against reddit TOS.
Saying Luigi was right will get you shadow banned. No doubt mods have a hard on for Apple, even tho Apple has been recording people’s conversations before it was cool.
Probably an employee doing damage control.
Jokes on you! I know that Apple knows that I know they know.
Yeah Apple is pretty transparent about it and what they use it for (allegedly) haven’t really seen anything saying Apple is using more than they claim/say.
Either way Linux is so much better.
Thanks legitimately random user!
Linux picks a random user out of the hat to prove it - gets someone using android with play services. erm . . . ignore them . . . that doesn’t count.
That really loops back to Google more than a function of linux.
Just because it uses the Linux kernel doesn’t mean it’s real Linux. Google took everything that made Linux good - customisation, root access, privacy, freedom - out of Linux to make Android
A lot of that’s still available in AOSP. The devices they actually sell just load a heap of commercial crap on top of that.
Akshually, . . . copypaste . . . mostly google removed the GNU Scotsman.
That is the same kind of pedantry as claiming that ketchup is a smoothie because the tomato is a fruit.
